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Old Dec 24, 2009, 06:52 PM // 18:52   #1
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Hello, i am getting Factions soon. I have Prophecies and EOTN, but no Nightfall. My question is:

I am planning to play both PvE and PvP. I wanted to know if Nightfall is important as for the skills. I mean are there good PvE and PvP builds that do not require Nightfall skills?

Could you guys reccomend me some builds to use? In the case of PvE, id prefer a permaform or something round those standards. Thank you
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #2
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Deadly Paradox is NF, you're f*cked.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #3
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Sh*t, true. No other solution perhaps?
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #4
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Yeah, don't use permaform..it fails in regular PvE. :O
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #5
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Deadly Paradox is NF, you're f*cked.
^ He's a closed minded idiot.

There are plenty of builds using Proph/Factions/EotN skills, but having NF really does give you an advantage
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45   #6
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He'll not be able to perma as it is now. There are decent dagger builds with the games he has, but that's not what he asked for.

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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:09 PM // 21:09   #7
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Actually, i dont really mind dont having to use permaform. What i aimed for PvE was:

-A good build that can be useful for Farming
-A good dmg dealing PvE build
-Both withuot needing Nfall

So, please tell me a good build if there happens to be one. Thanks

Oh, i would also like to know if PvP works good without Nfall too.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #8
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For epic damages, use the erm...MSDB or JS-FF-DB build with asuran scan and strength of honor, the damage will fly through the roof .
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:22 PM // 21:22   #9
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For general PvE:

Death Blossom, Moebius Strike - Factions (obviously).
Flurry - Proph // Drunken Master* - EOTN
Save Yourselves!* - Factions

The rest is basically up to preferences.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #10
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ok, thanks but do you think that i can solo with that?

What would be a good PvP build?

One more last thing, what is MSDB or JS-FF-DB?
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28   #11
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what is MSDB or JS-FF-DB?
Acronyms for names of skills.
JS = Jagged Strike.
FF = Fox Fangs
DB = Death Blossom.

No, those bars cannot solo. the only solo farm build you should think of using is Perma. Why would you want to solo so much anyways.

A "Coward!" pressure bar i think can be run in PvP.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 08:27 AM // 08:27   #12
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Agree, why would you wanna solo regular PvE, going through NM or even HM with a good 8man team build is faster than permaing through it, especially the places where you can't perma
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21   #13
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Because i wont solo for Regular PvE but i will for ecto farming, for example.
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It's hard soon with a sin, SF getting nerfed and stuff y'know
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 03:47 PM // 15:47   #15
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yeah. I realized that Wastrels Collapse is really useful for PvP so i guess i might get NFall
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Old Dec 28, 2009, 07:10 PM // 19:10   #16
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Read the General Campfire Posting Guidelines. Don't ask for builds when you haven't given an example of the build that you are running.

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You really need to get NF. Critical Agility is one of the best Assassin skills in the game, hands down, and if you are planning on using PermaSF you cannot do so without Deadly Paradox.
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